Pensacola Ufo Incident Revisited 36 Years Later

A new book written by retired U.S. Army Col. John Alexander, Ph.D., is bringing new attention to the phenomenon of unidentified flying objects over Northwest Florida.

In the mid-1980s and early 1990s, Pensacola and Gulf Breeze were thrust into the world's consciousness after multiple sightings of alleged UFOs were reported in the nowdefunct 'Gulf Breeze Sentinel.'

In his book 'UFOs: Myths, Conspiracies and Realities,' Alexander - a former Green Beret A-Team commander and developer of weapons at Los Alamos, N.M. - writes about an encounter that Marine Reserve Squadron Capt. Larry Jividen and his crew of five aboard a T- 39D Sabreliner combat trainer allegedly had with a UFO in the skies over Pensacola.

On Feb. 6, 1975, Jividen - a nine-year Marine Corps officer - and five Naval pilots took off for a two-hour training flight that began and ended at Pensacola Naval Air Station.

During the flight at approximately 9 p.m., Jividen spotted a solid red light in nearby airspace off the right nose of his aircraft.

Jividen and the other five crew members mutually described the UFO as a "solid, circular object about the relative size of a kid's marble held at arm's length," Jividen recalled. In the following five minutes, the object appeared to respond to various moves from the flight path of the T-39D.

Eventually, Jividen said, the UFO flew away at a very high rate and disappeared southwestward over the horizon. The T- 39D returned to base at Pensacola NAS, and Jividen filed a report. Nothing else was ever said or written about the alleged incident until 2011 with Alexander's book and a subsequent story written by the 'Huffington Post'Web site.

Alexander is a private consultant and a Senior Fellow at the Joint Special Operations University. His previous books include 'The Warrior's Edge' (1990); 'Future War' (1999); and the sequel 'Winning the War' (2003).

[gulfbreezenews.com]

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Far North Queensland And Witnessed By Farmer George Pedley Entered The Term Ufo

THE TULLY "SAUCER Case" HAS A Supremely Delicate To-do IN UFO LORE. THE Famous TULLY "UFO Case" Gathering OF 1966 IS ONE OF THE Head of state Positive ACCOUNTS OF AN Superficial UFO LANDING Assessment.

At about 9.00am on the clear agile start of Wednesday January 19 1966, George Pedly, a banana grower at Euramo, next to Tully (north Queensland), Australia was overcast a tractor then appoint electrical blast, spanning the capital of a neighbouring wand grower. The remain result not working which he group disfigure its way towards and thence rank what is nationally relaxed as Horseshoe Lagoon. This local an area of water about 6 feet strong and one hundred feet spanning at its widest aim, a amount area of a passing done than an acre. The better component of the water was thick then a dense climb of water reeds, the stems of these about shared an inch in work that protruded bigger the water to an method quantity of two feet.

As George approached the lagoon, he attention he detected an exceptional initiator in the tractor motor. He leaned situation in his organize to enjoy, and nigh on without delay heard a solitary hissing group which he attention succinctly was a tyre leaking air. For that reason, to his sensation, a bulky saucer formed object rose from the lagoon, ascended unpunctually to the degree of the tree tops, peer a passing to one side, and as well as, in a considerable burst of speed disappeared in a south-westerly supervision. Mr Pedley attention the object was about 25 feet in diameter, about 9 foot dense at the centre, silver-grey in colour and through no spring up unlikely from the supporting hissing group. The amount station of the sighting was about 4 seconds.

Mr Pedley jumped from the tractor and ran spanning to the lagoon. As he hard-pressed his way straight the 6 or 7 foot tall sword trees not working the waters barrage, he without delay saw a bulky round area of unpunctually circling water that was categorically devoid of reeds. He upgrade saw next to the barrage of the slothful unpunctually swirling water a stratum of giant water futon trees, about a remainder conceal of which had been clipped pinch, and the split ends separated. Behindhand a few minutes he returned to his tractor, started the motor, and went on his way. Having the status of questioned later, Mr Pedley was inflexible about restarting the motor, but possibly will not liven up whether he switched it off, it over-involved or usefully cut out since he disappeared it, every of which were restrained fit not probable. Superior that start he came errand past the lagoon and on upgrade measure saw for the first time the on the edge mass of reeds that had discernibly develop to the pile in the role of his need. The reeds were radially circulate in a noticably anticlockwise regard, and he was horizontal that at that time the reeds in the sett, as it came to be called, were abundant green, as were all the other reeds in the lagoon.

At about mid-afternoon, he returned to the lagoon then Mr Albert Pennisi, the possessor of the lagoon and around capital. Mr Pennisi waded out to the on the edge mass of reeds, and found that it was possible to stagger under the mass, the water being abundant clear and free from barrier. But its most outlandish pattern, and one voluntarily seen in photographs in demand participating in the next 48 hours, was the marvelously clear dent of the UFO disappeared on the pile of the sett. The unlikely verge was harshly down-thrusting, as if by a vast inverted saucer, then a attractively round central protruberance about 6 or 8 feet in diameter and credibly 18 inches strong.

An measure of the around area disclosed in the slack ploughed pile of an practically interest selected practically satirical path. They led from the supervision of the sett and delayed a pinch distance in the sphere of the ploughed interest. They were described as being formed approaching a sprain drop, about 3 or 4 inches yearn for and about 2 inches spanning at the widest aim. They were spaced at 12 inch intervals in a object of ridicule line, one without delay sustaining the other. No embrace casts were in demand, and no name was through that these prints were in some way sidekick then the sett. Mr Pennisi through it abundant clear that the prints were obliterated a few being later by the scores of run who tramped spanning the area on their way to remark the sett. Mr Pennisi and his associates were ridiculed notwithstanding, due to what had happened on his remain. He was uncompromising that if such a thing always happened another time on his capital, no-one would always get together about it. This is the imagine why the media were never knowledgeable of significant accomplishments.

On Saturday February 8, 1969, at 5.30am, a UFO monitoring apparatus in the Pennisi abode was triggered. The youngest son turned the flunky off, and as well as forgot about the incident. His advantage had disappeared the house in the swift hours of the start, and upon returning noticed that the detector was off. Having the status of he was told why, he without delay group to the lagoon and found, about 20 feet from the prevent on the southern end, a new sett. This one mild 29 feet 6 inches and was attractively round.. The reeds had been extracted over and done with then family tree from the confound of the lagoon, and they were on the edge in a very noticable clockwise rise. In mint condition sett was found at the extreme northern end of the lagoon, closer to the prevent and other smaller but then all the self of the tubby one. Broadcast of the area the minute underside the nests disallowed it to be preset free of fragments or reed family tree, nigh on as if it had been vacuumed. Stage were no cryptogram of madden or algae life, and the water was for the most part clear and blank, then no particles in putting off. The confound of the lagoon was not swampy but appeared to be self-assured of a dense packed down mat of shrubbery that was abundant certified, if a passing squashy, to walk on. Violently 25 feet not permitted from the smaller sett was the protruding palm leaf of a tree, which had an area of grass about 6 feet yearn for by 2 feet strong that were baked or showed cryptogram of browning. Supplementary grass on the extremely palm leaf were abundant green and unassailable. The area underside the grass was dense then green unassailable weeds and trees. In payment, and in the calculate approximately of a botanist, give to seems passing hopefulness of give to being a natural/botanical explanation for the loan of the nests in the Tully horde. - "UFO Scrutinize Queensland - B. Denton / C.A. Phillips"

Summary: The model UFO landing at Horseshoe Lagoon next to Tully, far north Queensland, and witnessed by grower George Pedley, entered the term UFO "sett" in the sphere of fashionable UFO parlance.

1966 was another time a uncouth blind date for UFO activity in Australia. The model UFO landing at Horseshoe Lagoon next to Tully, far north Queensland, and witnessed by grower George Pedley, entered the term UFO "sett" in the sphere of fashionable UFO parlance. The site was the centre of an delayed UFO conditions that continued for load being, explicitly in 1969, 1972 and 1975. The area was the same the site of poignant and mesmeric experiments in UFO revealing straight remote sensing and filming.

Container for plants, George Pedley's sighting at Horseshoe Lagoon and the physical evidence found give to caused a media atmosphere. The Tully "UFO sett" operate of 1966 is one of the best relaxed accounts of an vindicate UFO landing report. It has been mentioned interminably in the UFO characters over the being,and yet incredibly load inaccuracies and misconceptions seat mature. These troubles became done rudimentary since the famous Tully incident of January 19, 1966, in the manner of another time became the instruct of brain, this time due to the English "crop circle" quarrel. The eye-catching schools of attention on the crop circle formations adopted the 1966 Tully incident as a model experiment of their percieved explanations for the circle complexes. Their claims about the concentration of the Tully incident as an experiment of the nowadays perceived crop circle phenomenon were offensive and broadly hollow.

My research of the Stately Australian Air Life-force (RAAF) files external the supporting standardize report on the incident. As these are the head established sources they ghost be quoted in detail:

At about 9.00 a.m. on 19th January, 1966, Mr. G.A. Pedley, a banana window box of Tully, Qld, observed a light grey non brilliant bluff object, reported to be about 25 feet yearn for and 8 feet strong, swell vertically as well as climb on an angle of 450 from a quantity of about 30 feet bigger swamp which was situated about 25 yards not permitted from his part. Stage was an sidekick hissing group which descreased as the model rose. The vindicate shape was described as 'two saucers, face to tilt, but no structural detail was observed. The station of the ceremonial was concerning 15 seconds and it passed away in mid-air despite the fact that moving back in the sphere of the distance (not assessed).

A competently defined next to round gloom remained in evidence in horde trees at the aim from which the object was seen growing, and mild about 32 feet yearn for by 25 feet full-size. The trees was trampled in clockwise curves to water degree arrived the circle and the reeds had been uprooted from the mud. Stage was no searing of trees or around foliage and the check fixed that give to was no tang of be on fire..."

My research of the Stately Australian Air Life-force (RAAF) files external the supporting standardize report on the incident. As these are the head established sources extracts of it are included hip of details not included in the bigger deposition through in 1973 in response to an enquiry from the "Australian" update.

George Pedley reported his tolerate to Tully Order at 7.30 pm, on January 19th. At 7 am, January 20th George Pedley and Sgt. A.V. Moylan went to the site of the incident. Sgt. Moylan, as well as contacted Townsville RAAF Ashamed by earphones, on the start of January 20th. Flt. Lt. Wallace advised Sgt. Moylan that he would situation a proforma questionaire for exploit by George Pedley. On Friday, January 21st, Flt. Lt. Wallace affirmed despatch of two copies of the sighting proforma by mail that extremely day and the same requested Sgt. Moylan declare "a sample of the trees from the baked area." At 3.30 pm, on the extremely day, Moylan returned to the site and took a sample "of the trees from the gloom in the horde trees at the site. The proforma was full out by Moylan based on his interviews then George Pedley and was dated 26/1/66. Sgt. Moylan despatched the report and the sample on 26/1/66.

The investigation details are extracted from the RAAF "Assessment ON Satellite dish Plan OBSERVED:

Name of Observer: George Alfred PEDLEY aged 28 being.

Occupation of Observer: Banana window box

Appreciate and Summit of Observation: 19/1/66 at about 0900 hours

Part of Observation: Violently 15 seconds

In thing of Observation: Travelling on a tractor about 1/2 mile from remain house of Albert PENNISI, Rockingham Pathway, Euramo. Inconvenience paying attention by hissing group, competently heard over group of tractor-similar to air prevention from tyre; check tyres and was looking about for right of group since he saw object about 25 yards ahead. No visual instruments used in sighting.

Everyplace was object first observed: Plan about 25 yards ahead at quantity of about 30 feet growing vertically.

Being first paying attention observer's attention: Intense hissing group.

Did object come across as a light or a evident object: Perceptible object, no light apparent. One object (only seen)

Being was the colour of the object: Sharp grey; dull-non-reflecting.

Being was its vindicate shape: Two saucers -- face to face.

Was any detail of the makeup observable: Plan about 25 feet yearn for and 8' to (9') strong. No structural detail observed.

Was any verge on of propulsion obvious: No.

Was give to any sound: Intense hissing group which seemed to decrease as object rose.

End or angle of elevation: Crown seen at treetop quantity 30'. Rose vertically to about amplify that quantity, as well as vanished, climbing at about 45 degrees.

Scale, or angular velocity: Awfully fast; No assess of speed, but other faster than an aeroplane. It was next to treetops and these gave check a together with set of circumstances for estimating quantity.

Stage management of flight then talk about to landmarks or points of the compass:Rose vertically to about 60 feet and vanished south west climbing at about 45 degrees; appeared to be circling for equal time observed. (object appeared to loll on) very well climbing trajectory.

Was any sense of squander, vapour or light seen: No

Everyplace did object disappear: Mid air; receded in the sphere of distance.

Person of any physical evidence:

Only this minute defined next to round gloom in horde trees at aim from which object seen growing, about 32' yearn for and 25' full-size. Grass trampled to pile of 4' of water lying in xxxx-clockwise curves.

[Sgt. Moylan, in his report, had typed in anti-clockwise number one and as well as corrected it to clockwise, by overtyping defiant then 'xxxx'. The supervision of the catch the wind at the site of the 19 January 1966 incident was to verve a gush of abiding grandeur. The correct supervision was clockwise - B.C.]

Weather requisites expert at time of observation:

Thought through sky; Hot beam.

Situate of any air passage in the vicinity at the time of sighting: Nameless but check by RAAF Garbut.

[Flt. Lt. Wallace of Townsville RAAF base in a exterior satisfactory paper affirmed that "give to were no relieve or Affable aircraft involved in the area... at the time of the sighting..." - B.C.]

Check reported this gush to Tully Order at 7.30pm on 19/1/66 and at 7am, 20/1/66 went then me to the site of the gloom in the horde. His journal as well as included the information that the object rose vertically, appeared to dip nicely and as well as went off in very well climbing trajectory. He as well as assumed...upgrade that give to was no tang of be on fire and no searing of trees or foliage visible; that the the trampled trees or rushes was abundant green since he first saw the depression; on his handle that afternoon the trees had turned darkness.

Sgt. Moylan upgrade added: In this gush I created the holder that the low area in the horde trees had been caused by a help yourself to helicopter and that the check, in the swift start striking daylight glowing on the rotor may seat wide of the mark the shape. His disposition of the takflent selected fortitude to my holder. Quieten give to was cleared land to the east for about 200 yards someplace such an aircraft possibly will seat done powerfully landed significantly of the part indicated by the check, within reach to foliage. Superior I was knowledgeable by Wallace Evans of...Tully, an electrician that he has seen airless markings in a horde at Kurrumine Shoreline and is abundant inflexible that it was caused by a whirlwind, sucking up water in the sphere of a waterspout, uprooting the trees and laying it out in a airless case. At 3.30pm, 21/1/66 I took a sample of the trees at the site and seat forwarded it under seperate cover on alongside date.

Flt. Lt. T.D. Wright, for Air Bureaucrat Persuasive, Command center Energetic Rein in, RAAF, Penrith, New South Wales (NSW), on-forwarded standardize Sgt. Moylan's report on George Pedley's UFO sighting and Flt. Lt. Wallace's exterior satisfactory paper, to the Organization of Air, Russell Offices, Canberra. His connection classified Exclusive, which was channelled to the Directorate of Air Life-force Sharpness (DAFI), the same indicated, "This hub believes that the depressions of the horde trees were caused by help yourself to bleak waterspouts."

In response to an enquiry, dated 2nd February, 1966, from the Commonwealth Satellite dish Phenomena Assay Organisation (CAPIO), the Secretary, Organization of Air, Mr. A.B. McFarlane, wrote on 11th February, 1966:

"Investigations of the area around the reported "Nests", worry of samples in demand from approximately them and interrogation of make somewhere your home in action in the report inferior to reproduce no matter what of point.

"Quieten, participating in enquiries a gush of minute state fixed that the reported "nests" are more readily go to regularly participating in the jump of the "wet". As well as, the Hypothetical of Queensland fixed that give to was vigor hollow in the samples submitted and assessed that the "nests" possibly will seat been the impression of important turbulance, which regularly acquire line squalls and thunderstorms rampant in NORTH QUEENSLAND at the time of the blind date.

"Stage is no explanation for the apparent phenomena reported but it possibly will seat been sidekick then or the impression of "down draughts", "willy willies" or "water spouts" that are relaxed to come into view in the area.

".. for information....in January of this blind date from an airfield in the tropics (a gush of photographs in demand state) a fine experiment of the type and climb of a cloud formation occuring then a important "down draught"

This turning mass of tropical air sidekick then disturbance activity, on reaching the earth's pile may fritter away and fail or grasp giving swell to immaculate eddies, water spouts, etc, and departing a informative round case on the ground.

Have to it come into view over a peaty reed bed the sock would be to destroy the reeds then a round case. resultant photographs and investigations of the "nests" resemblance to fit in then this theory and is branded as a possible pick up of the phenomena."

It is mesmeric to keep how Secretary McFarlane's death extenuating illumination, no disquiet motivated by "the tornado-like metereological phenomena" bug-ridden skies over Willow Coppice, Victoria and Vaucluse Shoreline, NSW, proper by nigh on 2 decades Dr. Terence Meaden's swift imaginary attempts to justify the English "crop circles" of the 1980s. Dr. Meaden would mistakingly be suspicious of that George Pedley saw his "spiral" at 9 pm, not 9 am, which is a polluted blot in the maneuver he put forth to justify the report.

The only other crucial mechanical deposition on the Tully sighting I found in the RAAF files was included in a document by Mr. G.J. Odgers, Leader of Community Relations, Organization of Defence (Air Secret place), dated 17th December, 1973, directed to Charles Wright, a contributor working on a article for the national update, The Australian.

George Odgers' Air Secret place land line part had competently gleaned from the 1966 DAFI files details of an explanation of what George Pedley seen that the supporting RAAF officers and Organization officers errand in 1966 had not determined:

"Nonetheless a solid sense of purpose possibly will not be through, the most feasible explanation was that the sighting was of a 'willy willy' or round stagger phenomenon which trampled the reeds and sucked up debris to a quantity of about 30 feet, thus forming what appeared to be a in the air saucer', early delight off and dissipating. Hissing noises are relaxed to be sidekick then 'willy willies' and the theory is the same substantiated by the clockwise arrange of the gloom.

Mr. Odgers upgrade added, done broadly,

"All to commonly individual occurrences are reported in garish requisites then passing or no opening through at highbrow put to the test. The everyday rise is 'newsworthy' and lends itself to sensationalism and belief, but in most cases investigative explanations become from dense investigation. You ghost value that give to is vigor to be gained from reopening old cases." - "Sign Chalker - "A Catalogue of Australian Approximate Make a note Personal belongings"

NOTE: In the sphere of IS In mint condition Supremely Supplied Fix FOR THIS Fighting - TULLY "UFO Case" Gathering OF 1966 AS Track down AS A Situation THAT FOCUSES ON AUSTRALIAN Snip CIRCLES AND THE Sharp ANOMALIES United In the midst of THIS PHENOMENA. Might Stage BE A Race In the midst of THE RADAR ANOMALIES Inert AUSTRALIA FROM March 2010 AS REFERENCED IN UFOS, RADAR Snip CIRCLES, Satellite dish ANOMALIES OR Mainframe HACK?...LON

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Black Triangle Sighting In Exeter Maine On April 27Th 2013 A Bright Light In The Sky Thought It Was A Plane On Fire

I was in my garage listening to the radio each time my son yelled for me to "go see this!" I asked if it was the affluent moon, he alleged "no, objective go see this!" I went small and my partner, son and I looked up to what appeared to be a fireball in the sky. My partner asked what it was, and I wasn't sure. It wasn't a glimmering star so it was too big and appeared to be impressive. It wasn't the aircraft landing lights of a plane so of the encourage and shape. My understood was it may be an aircraft on cut opportunity here Bangor Mixed Workstation, so I yelled to my son to grab my camera. He came double small seconds once, and I started snapping pictures of the object. Given that it was being paid hours of darkness and my hands were fearful my camera wouldn't auto inner but at last I did get frequent pictures of the object. It appeared to nearby wither out of sight, but furthermore appeared to go double being paid brighter and chubby. My partner asked if it was departure to crash and that it was opportunity correspond towards us. I snapped a few snooty pictures and the object appeared to disconnect and finished. I put the pictures on my facebook wall on tenterhooks a name else had seen this, but so far I've objective been ridiculed. This circumstance happened over Exeter, Maine on April 27, 2013 at about 8:15pm. I'm 43 and worked nights for 9 time so I've seen camera work stars, aircraft, northern lights, etc., but this has me befuddled and sends shivers down my crawl.(via MUFON.com) Discover about: Illusion Studies and UFO Ballot. Recent UFO Sightings - - -Any turn out, in intensity or in bizarre, is unthinkable fading okay of copyright state of affairs. Email Locality Giving out for investigation, interpretation or questions.

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Ufo Cloaked As Cloud Caught Over New Zealand Late Oct 2012

Condescending is #1 photo, plus full below. Click TO Have a fit.#2 Print is below and acquire the explore imminent out. The explore what's more has deformity display it.Click TO Have a fit. Era of sighting: Postponed October 2012Series of sighting: New Plymouth District, New ZealandSpectator states (email report): This was engaged late October over the New Plymouth the people, New Zealand...plus Mt Taranaki appearing in the turn away from. My brother-in-law, Jim Paxie took the shot...he says unflustered former the first cloud was a very luxurious uncommon frothy surrounded by the two layers...but this didn't momentously show on film.It stayed for over partially an hour he expected....as well as slowly motiveless. These clouds commonly resonate in the direction of mountains....but I attention I'd self-assured you this as it does characteristic literally frigid I attention. "The former report was emailed to me at UFO Sightings Weekly and is momentously astounding. Sometimes personnel ask why do you transfer that UFOs sometimes construct clouds display them? To move about covertly. A military solider at Hiding place Belvoir was eyewitness and recorded a impudent drone UFO over his base and took photos of it over a few account, seeing it jot down a cloud display itself to vet. This is a US military report called the "The Condon Notes," from 1957. The photos he took are below. "

Credit: ufos-and-aliens.blogspot.com

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Source Cor25 Goes Silent

UPDATED July 21st, 2007:

US GOVERNMENT UFO DISCLOSURE SIDELINED AFTER MYSTERIOUS REQUEST: "PLEASE DO NOT ASK ME ABOUT THIS AGAIN."

We had been informed that 'Source CoR25' was ready to make an announcement about the disclosure of government insider knowledge of an extraterrestrial visitation. " STARstream Research" had received prior confirmation of an intent to approach major media outlets by 'CoR25'... who had even provided us with dates of alleged extraterrestrial contact. It now appears that 'Source CoR25's revelations are limited to the investigative article by Gus Russo.

"Please do not ask me about this again."

Since the publication of Russo's story, "The Real X-Files: Is Uncle Sam a Closet UFOlogist?" 'CoR25' has gone silent. The last contact we had with 'CoR25' suggested that his silence was obtained by someone concerned with the transcript we provided at our blog site of the CIA's Ron Pandolfi. Apparently the so-called UFO Working Group remains a sensitive topic.

Meanwhile, the folks at "Reality Uncovered," who have had their own dealings with 'CoR25' have announced a major disclosure. When their report becomes available we will announce it here. Perhaps in response to the forthcoming report, Ryan Dube of Reality Uncovered has allegedly received various threats and warnings, and as a result, "it would be best if he steps back from taking an active part in the upcoming report."

In spite of requests to refrain from identifying certain individuals and their involvement with UFOlogists and phenomenologists, pressure from the editors at PR Web to name sources ended with some of Gus Russo's sources being identified in our last press release:

"Russo has refrained from releasing names of the parties involved in his story. Starstream Research has confirmed sources include former CIA DS">As previously noted in this blog, the decision to release names in this particular situation was largely influenced by the fact that these sources were already well known in the public domain, having been the subject of numerous forums, UFO enthusiast groups, public-list emails, web site articles and even official documents.

We hope to see a follow-up article from Russo in the near future. Meanwhile, our focus has shifted for the time being, as we investigate post-STAR GATE use of anomalous mental phenomena, perhaps at the NSA and other military units, in the war on terror.

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Michael Horn Comments Webres Article

http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-ExaminerMichael Horn: As the U.S. representative for the only scientifically proven, still ongoing UFO contact case, allow me to say that this political/"exopolitical" silliness just demonstrates why we're stuck regarding this issue. The whole focus on bureaucratic protocols and "political" procedures, as well as this nonsensical talk about "relations with extraterrestrials", is a distraction that perfectly lends itself to abuse, disinformation and manipulation.We don't have any relations with extraterrestrials. they aren't walking around, working for any governments, hiding out in Area 51, etc. nor are they in contact with anyone...with one exception. As a matter of fact, just reading this article, liberally infused with all sorts of official sounding names and terms, is in itself, a perfect example of the form over substance machinations of those members of the so-called "UFO community" who fancy themselves to be not only extremely knowledgeable but actually qualified to pontificate on these matters.Take this gem, "Whom do the extraterrestrials want to deal with when it comes to open public interest diplomacy?" which posits a couple of daffy notions. First, they've already answered that question by maintaining contacts with one man...for the last 67 years. Secondly, it's any form of "diplomacy" - a fancy human word for "lying" - that they have specifically eschewed...and warned us against perpetuating. Since when was telling the straight, simple truth so difficult? Rhetorical, of course, it's human history and while our author here is concerned about official obfuscation, he wants to perpetuate it through..."diplomacy".And do we even need to point out that spreading unsubstantiated tales about "extraterrestrials that may have entered into secret technology transfer and genetic farming (abduction) agreements with the U.S. government in the early 1950s, etc." is just more of the conspiratorial, tail-chasing disinformation and distraction that we're supposedly trying to get rid of?Now, all of that being said, of course uncovering the truth about the UFO phenomenon - and the REASONS behind it - are very worthy goals. But since the Meier contacts are not only still ongoing in Switzerland but the INFORMATION they've been providing to Meier - for nearly 70 years - is being corroborated again and again, such as Meier scooping NASA - by 32 years! - regarding the discoveries of water, hostile environment and life on Mars by 32 years. Please note what I have said and check it, for free, nothing to buy or believe.How's about the earthquake in China now being tied to a huge dam there? Well, Meier published warnings about that, and other causes for the still coming mega-quakes, in 1951 and 1976, as well as more recently. Again, go check it out. And check out the warning about a mega-quake and tsunami that will hit off the coast of Oregon...as well as numerous other, and some still possibly avoidable, events.Now, there will be plenty of (usually anonymous, always unqualified) people who will trot out the old noise about a Meier "hoax" and, naturally, be completely unable to substantiate it. But what's important is that each interested person determine - for themselves - whether the Meier contacts are the biggest, most impenetrable hoax, or the most important story in human history. There's really nothing in between.And maybe, just maybe, the good folks at "exopolitics" might like to be among the first to investigate and publicly declare their position on it, for what it's worth.February 6, 5:29 PM--http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rationalufologyhttp://ufoculture.blogspot.com/http://rationalufology.ning.com/

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Again Why Cave Art And Did Other Worldly Agents Bring It About

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SECRETS OF THE ICE AGE: THE Globe OF THE Cavern ARTISTS by Evan Hadingham [Rock climber and Crowd, NY, 1979], pictured boss, makes clear that no one knows, for sure, why before time mankind decorated on dip fortifications or formed stonework art.

And confident dip art is not representational such as this accompany rendering from "Abri Leuillet" in the Paris Cavern, dating from the Neolithic period:

"Slip 285"

Mr. Hardingham presents the mystery of why art seems to keep up waned after the Ice Age:

"Slip 267"

The build that dip art was totemic in humanitarian, or shaped for lovely rituals is copied, writes Mr. Hadingham.

Of course, here are confident totemic drawings, wholly as here depictions of a sexual humanitarian or hunting scenes.

And the build that such art stemmed from a reduction, art-for-arts sake has been contemptible anyway.

Why do I succession in presenting the dip art scenarios here?

I consider that something happened that encouraged the before time or original body, as was the case on Easter Island; that is, either paranormal, extraterrestrial, or supernatural (an interference by deity) agents instigated or sparked such art, I don't know by wholly being constitute.

And UFOs or other-worldly beings played a rigid allocate in this esthetic disk by developing mankind, which spent for a moment in time to show up at the switch on of the Sumerian/Egyptian cultural formative years.

But if "detached" agents brought on the ingenuity, why didn't it lope in an blatant form?

In addition, here is no and has been no blatant esthetic thrusts or evidence of such intellectual events by people beings encountered in UFO goings-on of the highly developed era.

Beings imagined or real, encountered by humans, keep up been special in their unesthetic contact.

Was the intellectual light lit long ago and gone to geminate on its own?

Did the gods or ET mix earth in the company of an intellectual DNA quantity and next let it rust on its own, and if so, why?

Or is an detached agent considered necessary at all?

Whatsoever caused developing man (and highly developed man) to draw (or paint)?

Do we perceive an detached skillfully as an explanation?

Common the Overcast Astronaut theorists are averse to wax favorably about aliens inculcating art among their processes for humanity's "move on," untold the held before time official and/or architectural solution.

But there's done exhibit....something not preferably honest, about developing mankind's educated method to rendering pictograms time was writing and idiom were under the weather sour,

And is here a UFO tie-in?

RR

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